• October 21, 2019
  • 22 5780, Tishrei
  • פרשת בראשית

Reading the Rabbinic Mind: Sukkah Ch1

Reading the Rabbinic Mind: Sukkah Ch1

Join Rabbi Yitzhak Zuriel to learn Masechet Sukkah, starting from chapter 1. We will cover the discussions of the gemara itself, as well as the comments of Rashi and Tosafot.
We will emphasize a methodological approach to studying gemara, aimed at equipping the student with the tools needed to learn gemara on one’s own.

June 25, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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Class description

Welcome to all new and returning students!

I am excited to be learning with all of you from the very beginning of Masechet Sukkah. In the first few meetings, we will devote a small part of each class to studying one or two mishnayot from the first two chapters of the masechet. This will enable us to see, within the first couple of weeks, the mishnayot that contain concepts relevant to understanding the sugyot in the gemara. In parallel, we will spend the main part of each class session moving through the first segments of the gemara itself.

You are welcome to look over the mishnayot of chapter 1 in preparation for our first class, and I will be happy to discuss any questions you may have. Looking forward to meeting you in the class!

Yitzhak Zuriel

June 27, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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Class description

In the last shiur, we learned the first mishna with Rashi and then read the first short sugya in the gemara, which asks about the style of the mishna’s halachic statement.

In this shiur, we will learn Rashi and Tosafot on this piece of gemara, and, time allowing, read the next segment of the gemara, which is about the midrashic derivation of the first halacha brought in the mishna.

July 2, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we finished discussing the gemara with Rashi’s comments, and then we read the first comment of Tosafot on this first segment of gemara, and then read most of the second comment of Tosafot.  The subject was the stylistic issue of the choice of language employed by the mishna. If there are any questions on any of the material we have covered so far, please ask by email or at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will complete the Tosafot and see how he extends the gemara’s reasoning to understanding the language used in the case of a Hanukkia that is placed too high. Then we will continue in the gemara to understand the 3 different explanations of the amoraim for the height limitation of a sukkah.

July 4, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we finished the Tosafot on the first segment of the gemara.  Then we read, translated, and discussed the outline of the next section of the gemara, all the way down to the bottom of Daf 2a, which brings the opinions of 3 different amoraim regarding the question of the derivation of the limitation of the sukkah height to 20 amot.  Please review this material, and if there are any questions on what we’ve done so far we’ll start this shiur with them.

In this shiur, we will go back and understand in depth the opinions of each of the 3 amoraim, in each case bringing comments of Rashi and Tosafot where applicable.

July 9, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we discussed in depth the first opinion in the gemara, that of Rabah, regarding the derivation/source/reason for the height limitation of a sukkah.  We learned both the explanations of Rashi and the beginning of the Tosafot comments on Rabah’s opinion. The Tosafot pointed to a gemara in Eruvin that we needed to see before we could proceed with Tosafot’s analysis, so we read and explained the relevant part of the sugya in Eruvin. Please review all this material; if you have questions, you are welcome to ask them at the beginning of this shiur, or by email to me.

In this shiur, we will read the Tosafot ( ד”ה למען ידעו דורותיכם) and understand how he reconciles our sugya with the sugya in Eruvin.  Then we will move on to the discussion in the gemara of R. Zeira’s opinion, and learn the Rashi comments on this.  Time allowing, we will also discuss the third opinion in the gemara, that of Rava, with the comments of Rashi and Tosafot.

July 11, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we finished learning the Tosafot that reconciles the apparent contradiction between the statements of Rabah in our sugya and the sugya in Eruvin. Then we moved on to discuss the next piece of gemara, the position of R.Zeira,  in depth and learned the Rashi comments on it.

In this shiur, we will learn the third of the three positions brought in the gemara for the basis for the height limitation of a sukka, that of Rava, and the difficulty raised by Tosafot with respect to his view.

July 16, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we discussed Rava’s opinion regarding the basis for the height limitation of a sukkah.  We then read the difficulty that Tosafot finds with Rava’s clarification given in answer to Abaye’s challenge to his position.  Please review this and make sure you understand Tosafot’s difficulty clearly. If you have questions, we will discuss them at the early part of this shiur, before moving on to Tosafot’s answer.

In this shiur, we will learn Tosafot’s answer to the above difficulty in Rava.  Then we will move on to the next page, where the amoraim in the gemara clarify the differences between the opinions of Rabah, R.Zeira, and Rava brought above.  Following that, and time allowing, we will move further down the page to begin the gemara’s examination of three different halachic statements quoted in the name of the early amora Rav, and how they might be related to the three above opinions.

July 18, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we completed the first part of the sugya–the presentation of the three different opinions of amoraim (Rabbah, R.Zeira, Rava) about the derivation of the height limitation of a sukkah–with Tosafot’s answer to the difficulty he raised in Rava. This clarified Rava’s drash from the pasuk. We then read the first six lines on daf 2b, in which the gemara clarifies the three opinions further by explaining why each amora’s position was not adopted by the others. In this section, we discussed in depth and read Rashi’s comments on the first statement: why the other two amoraim did not agree with Rabbah.  Please review this material; if there are questions, please raise them at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will discuss in depth the parallel statements about the opinions of R.Zeira and Rava, and see the relevant comments of Rashi and Tosafot. Then we will move on to the gemara’s examination of three different halachic statements quoted in the name of the early amora Rav, and how they might be related to the three above opinions.

July 23, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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Masechet Sukkah, Daf 2b. In the previous shiur, we finished discussing the gemara’s full explanations of the 3-way amoraic dispute about the derivation of the height limitation of the Sukkah to 20 amot (first lines of Daf 2b), and also discussed the comments of Rashi and Tosafot on these explanations. Then we read, translated, and charted the flow of the next section of the sugya, in which the gemara brings three halachic statements attributed to the amora Rav that limit the scope of the tanaitic dispute in the mishna, and then tries to identify each with one of the positions in the abovementioned amoraic dispute.  Please review all of this material. If there are any questions, you can write them by email or raise them at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will follow in depth the gemara’s examination of each of the statements attributed to Rav, as well as Rashi’s and Tosafot’s extensions and enhancements to the gemara’s approach.

July 25, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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Masechet Sukkah, Daf 2b.  In the previous shiur, we studied (with the related comments of Rashi and Tosafot) the first meimra (of 3) brought in the name of Rav (this one by R.Yashia), and gemara’s assertion that it aligns with the position of Rabbah in the previous section of the sugya. We did the same for the second meimra (brought by Rav Huna), except that we only read the very first sentence of Tosafot’s  comment on this (ד”ה  יש בה יותר מארבע אמות וכו).  Please review this material. If there are any questions, please raise them at the beginning of the shiur, or even better: write them to me by email so I can refer to them at the start of the shiur.

In this shiur, we will read the rest of the above-mentioned Tosafot to understand both his question/difficulty as well as the two different answers he brings.  Then we will continue to the third meimra of Rav (brought by Rav Hanan bar Rabbah), again with the rishonim (R. and T.) on the page. Time allowing, we will see how the gemara understands the difference in position between the latter two meimrot.

July 30, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we discussed in depth the comments of Tosafot on the meimra of Rav Huna in the name of Rav: his difficulty and his 2 alternative answers.  We then discussed the following meimra–the last of the 3 in the name of Rav, that of Rav Hanan bar Raba– with Rashi’s explanations,  and the gemara’s assertion that this statement lines up with none of the three amoraim Raba, R Zeira, and Rava. Please review this material and if you have questions write them in an email or raise them at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will learn the Tosafot comments on the third meimra, then move on to the next stage of the sugya, attempting to understand the disputes implied between the 3 meimrot in Rav’s name.
August 1, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we learned (read, translated, mapped out, discussed) the section of the gemara that clarified what exactly is the dispute between Rav Huna and Rav Hanan bar Rabba in their meimrot quoting Rav. Please review this, and see if you can read it yourself.

In this shiur, we will learn Rashi’s comments on this section.  Then we will advance to the next, longer section of the gemara including the interesting baraita about Queen Helene.

August 6, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, after learning the Rashi on the segment of gemara that we had studied previously,  we moved on to the next, lengthier gemara section, which brings a baraita to refute the meimrot above of Rav Huna and Rav Hanan. We read,  translated, and quickly identified the logical flow of this section.  Please review what we’ve done.

In this shiur, we will start learning this section in depth,  starting with the baraita.
August 8, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we studied the amoraic discussion about the reason why R.Yehuda needed a second reason in his retort to the Hachamim quoted in the baraita.  We also read and discussed Rashi’s explanations of this piece of the gemara.  Please review this; if there are questions we will answer them at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will study in depth the gemara’s attempted refutation of the amoraim cited earlier, Rav Huna and Rav Hanan bar Rabba, and the deflection of the refutation by Raba bar Rav Ada and Rav Ashi. We will also read and discuss Rashi’s and Tosafot’s differing opinions as to the final conclusion here.

As I mentioned in the last shiur, this will be the last shiur of the summer zman, and we will have a break until the beginning of Elul zman on September 1 (our first shiur will be on September 3).

September 3, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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Welcome to all new and returning students, as we enter the so-important month of Elul!

We will be continuing learning in chapter 1 of Masechet Sukkah. The new sugya (Daf 3a) moves now to the basic question regarding the minimum required area of a sukkah.

Looking forward to learning this material with you!

September 5, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, which was the first of the Elul semester, we read, translated, and mapped the logical flow of a large chunk of gemara on Daf 3a, which is a self-contained sugya on the topic of the minimum area size of a sukkah (and actually about something else, also..).  Please review this material, and make sure you understand why we broke down the components and the flow the way we did.

In this shiur, we will go inside the pieces to understand them in depth.

September 10, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we discussed the gemara’s retort to the difficulty raised by R. Nachman bar Yitzhak.  This discussion revealed the extent of the ambiguity in the mishna on daf 28b that brings the dispute of Beit Hillel and Beit Shamai. Please review this material and see if you can read and explain it on your own. If there are any questions, we will discuss them at the beginning of this shiur.

In this shiur, we will finish the gemara and see how it resolves the difficulties.  We will then learn the long Tosafot on the page.

September 12, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we finished the gemara sugya on daf 3a and discussed some of its implications. Then we started learning the long Tosafot on the page, where we see a list of halachot in which Rav Amram Gaon stated the halacha to be like Beit Shamai as opposed to Beit Hillel.

In this shiur, we will finish Tosafot’s listing of these halachot from Rav Amram, and in the final two cases we will look at the referenced sugyot as well. Then we will move on in Tosafot to his difficulty with the dispute of Beit Hillel and Beit Shamai in our sugya.

September 17, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we continued reading the long Tosafot on daf 3a about psak in certain instances according to Beit Shamai, and looked up the references in Masechet Berachot.  Regarding the second reference there in Berachot, we read the mishna and the beginning of the relevant gemara there, but we need to finish reading and understanding it, as it is necessary for understanding the difficulty Tosafot will raise on our sugya about sukkah, and his conclusions.  As I said in class, you are welcome to try reading that gemara in Brachot (daf 11a) on your own; we will go over it carefully in class. And of course to review what we have done so far.

In this shiur, we will learn the relevant part of the sugya in Berachot, and continue learning the Tosafot on our page to the end.

September 19, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In this shiur we will learn the parallel Tosafot in the sugya in Masechet Brachot, that will be helpful to better understanding what we learned from Tosafot on our own sugya.  Then we will go over the Toisafot on our page one more time, and then take a peek at some of the other rishonim on the sugya and see where they agree or disagree with Tosafot.

September 24, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In the previous shiur, we learned the Tosafot on the sugya in Masechet Brachot (daf 11a), and then quickly reviewed the long Tosafot on our page (Sukka 3a).

In this shiur we will see how the major poskim among the Rishonim (Rosh, Ri”f and Rambam) seem to understand the sugya and render the halacha. Then we will start new material on the next daf.

September 26, 2019 3:00 am - 4:00 am
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In this shiur, we will learn halachot brought in the gemara by the amoraim related to the issue of the required/allowable height of a sukkah.

Rabbi Yitzhak Zuriel has been enjoying guiding students in how to learn and understand Talmud at WebYeshiva.org since its founding. He began his teaching career as a teacher and educational director at Michlelet Bruria in the 1980s. For over 20 years, he has been working as a software engineer in Jerusalem, and during that time has been an editor and contributor to the company NDS's Torah journal, Chiddushei Torah@NDS, that was published annually from 1996-2014 . He and his wife reside in Ma'ale Adumim and are parents to five children and have many grandchildren.